Submitted by tessryan33 on Mon, 07/07/2008 - 13:30.
Sounds good to me! I am here and have a question for everyone. Is everyone cool with using this page as a means of communication? Or is there something that would work better? I personally have no preference, but I do think this is good, because we are on the course page everyday anyway and this way we can always see what everyone has said and so on.
I agree that the wiki should be our main form of communication as well, seeing as how much time we spend on this website. E-mail would work too, but I think this is just as easy, if not easier. I think we should all give updates or insight on this page at least 2 times a week so we can all stay on the same page throughout the project. I am ready to get started. The first step.. the Gantt Chart.
So, I know we all have to finish the Corporate Communication Project first, but I was just wondering how we are going to get started on this Gantt Chart. I think we should just post any ideas here and go from there. We know we have to make a brochure and a flyer. I think we should first break down all of the tasks to complete each document and what we want to include in each one. Then we can delegate responsibilty accordingly. Just kind of putting something out there. We can expand tomorrow after we turn in our other projects.
Submitted by tessryan33 on Thu, 07/10/2008 - 20:58.
I have to be honest I am still a little confused as to how all this works, but I agree a good idea would be to post every step that has to be completed and then we can figure out who would be best for each and by when each should be completed. It appears as though, maybe just one person should compose all the information onto the chart? Also we have individual weblogs, which are obviously individual. But then we also have the group activity reports, which I think we only need one from the whole group, so there is one for this week (week 5) and then one for weeks 6,7, and 8, so what we could do is each pick a week to be in charge of the group activity report or we could assign one person that task for consistency and then just keep in mind that, that is one of that person's responsibilities when assigning work. As far as listing every step that needs to be completed and when here is what I have come up with.
Brochure
-Research Company
-Decide what information should be included
-Write Information in own words
-Find Graphics
-Compile neatly and beautifully into brochure
So I guess what I am thinking is someone will do the research and forward it on to the next person who will word it for a brochure who will forward it onto to someone who can select appropriate graphics (maybe this person could do the group activity reports since it is not a large task) and then they will forward it to the last person who will get it all laid out in a brochure. I have made a number of brochures for the many groups I am in so I would love to be this last person if that is alright with everyone. And then we can select dates in a way that everyone has time to do their part.
Then in the chart we need to schedule in revisions.
Finally I think the flyer could be done in a similar way. Maybe even keeping jobs the same if we can each find our niche. Meaning, someone would research, the next person would word, the next person would find graphics and again this person could be in charge of activity reports, and then the last person would be in charge of the lay out and so on. Which again I have made a number of flyers for my groups as well so would love to do this. And since the due dates are the same we could just do both at the same time. Someone researches for both things at the same time and so on.
Please feel free to completely shoot my ideas down, or correct if I am wrong, However, I saw that our Gannt charts are due tomorrow so I really wanted to get the ball rolling.
Lastly Roxy has not been here yet, would you guys like me to e-mail her since we all have each other's e-mails now from Ed. Let me know.
I look forward to hearing from you guys and getting started!!
I guess I could take the role of finding graphics that would work best for our brochure. By taking this responsibility, I could also write the four group activity reports. Keep in mind that even though a person is assigned one of the tasks you listed, that person is more like the leader of that task. We all should take part in each task. Everyone must research the company to find out as much as we can. We need to know what audience we are targeting and the services the theatre provides. Also, once the person submits their draft of the writing to the group, the rest of us will peer review it before we submit our official draft to the course website. Just like I would ask all of your approval of the graphics, everyone will offer good advice of the writing that should be included. We might find a more concise way to write something or think of a catchier heading.. just anything. I think it is important that we all peer review and give feedback on each others parts before submitting anything to Ed. I am always available to give ideas of a section that might be useful in the brochure if the writer, which at this point I guess would be Sarah because Roxy hasn’t responded yet, needs help or any more ideas. The writing is probably the hardest part so we should all have a part in that. Anyways, I think we are making progress. I will try to get started on a Gantt Chart I guess. Once I find a template or something to go off of, it shouldn’t take too long. I will submit it on our wiki before I post it in the blog.
So I think all of your ideas were great so far. I would love to volunteer to do the research on the company! I think I could be good at that. Also I kind of freaked out tonight when I realized we have that graph due tomorrow! Does anyone think they could get it started? I looked at the outline of how to do one and it seems like it all needs to be done by one person? Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I will be traveling tomorrow and all weekend but will make myself available to do any work necessary. So if everyone can give some feedback, hopefully we can get this done by early tomorrow evening that would be great!
Thanks everyone and happy FRIDAY!
Submitted by tessryan33 on Thu, 07/10/2008 - 22:51.
It looks like Ryan has volunteered to do the Gannt chart. Let me know if I misinterpreted what you said, but if not thank you very much That means you get the privilege of selecting dates that things need to be complete by. I agree that we should all be proof reading each other's work. If Sarah researches and posts what she thinks should be included than we could all view it comment and then Roxy could start writing it in our words in a way that would be appropriate for our brochure. Which if you guys haven't had time to view the power point on brochures DO IT, it is awesome. Then she can again post it and we can read and comment. Then Ryan you can select pictures and again post them so we can all agree. Finally I can compose everything into a brochure. So Roxy won't have to worry about bullets, or fonts, or anything like that, just content. However, like you said we have to hear from her so I will e-mail her right now. Also, Ryan like you said you can post the Gannt chart on here before you turn it in so can all review, and I think it would be awesome if you could do the same with the group activity reports. Therefore, maybe you could complete that by Saturday night or Sunday morning so we have a chance to peek at it before you turn it in.
If anyone has any problems with this plan speak now or forever hold your peace!
Hey everyone I can do our group's work blog for this week. Don't forget to do your own individual one though! Thanks again Ryan for doing the Gantt chart! Also I was a little confused by the 2nd to last post before mine. We have to turn in the Gantt Chart and the work blog by Sunday at midnight. So if everyone would like to email me with something I can say that they have done we can get everyone included in that and I will post it by tomorrow so everyone can make any and all suggestions and we can get it perfect. Thanks everyone!
Sorry, but I am making the first revision to my own work.
I added Individual Work Blogs to the Chart. Even though their individual, I put it on the schedule so we don't forget. Also, I moved the peer review that we will have to do of another group out of the milestone category because it is not a milestone. I moved the legend over a couple columns too, no big deal.
Submitted by tessryan33 on Fri, 07/11/2008 - 11:39.
Sarah, I thought Ryan volunteered to our work blogs because he will be finding graphics?
Ryan, is there anything you need from me in order to write what our group has completed? I did view their myspace page and I was able to view the actress who be playing penny's page. I also watched the youtube video linked to at their site about the play... interesting to say the least.
Also the chart is due tonight at midnight. I think it looks great, I agree we should all research as possible and I think you broke down the tasks a bit better than I did. The subheadings for each persons task will clearly greatly help each person.
Hey thats fine if Sarah volunteered to do the first one, which is due this Sunday. I will do the other 3 for Weeks 6,7, and 8.
Pretty much all we did this week was brainstorm ideas of what needs to be done, assigned responsibility to certain tasks, and created a schedule (Gantt Chart).
I think we were successful in getting the ball rolling on this project. Everything is going good so far.
Personally, I still need to research this theatre to get a feel for what they are about, their mission statement, and goals for the future.
Thanks for your comments on the Gantt chart.. I think it is pretty good.. its only 5% of our project grade, and I think the chart will get us all 5 points
So I am having trouble deciding if I should include the fact that Roxy hasn't praticipated at all in any of our discussions yet. Did she ever respond to that email that was sent to her? Please let me know. I am out of town but I am still working on our group work blog for this week and will have it completed by tomorrow. I also think if Roxy doesn't let us know soon we need to divide up the section of work that we left for her to do between all of us. Thanks so much and let me know what you think. Also I think the Gantt chart is coming along great!
Submitted by tessryan33 on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 23:27.
Hey, I think it would make sense if you mentioned Roxy in our group report for this week. Remember the group report is to be emailed to Ed, not posted. I think it would be best if you asked him what we should do. Also, no she has not responded to the email...
Submitted by tessryan33 on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 10:22.
Did you mention Roxy in our report? What should we do? It is Monday. Our draft is due Wednesday. She has not emailed back. She did not comment on any of our reading responses.
I don't know what to do about Roxy. She submitted a Reading Response so I know she has been on the website. I can't think of one good reason why she hasn't looked at our wiki yet and at least said hello. We probably should ask Ed what to do about it. She didn't even respond to a personal e-mail either. Maybe if Ed e-mailed her, she would understand?
Anyways, our first draft is due Wednesday. By the end of today, we should have what sections we want to talk about and start thinking about the actualy content of the brochure. We need to have the writing done by the afternoon tomorrow.
I guess it will just be us three bouncing ideas off each other. Its worked so far..
Submitted by tessryan33 on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 16:17.
Hey Sarah if you could let me know what you said about Roxy in our group activity report, I will gladly email Ed about the situation. Also how is your research coming along? If you don't hear from Roxy, since you are selecting headings and sections and what not we could split that up three ways as far as writing the content. Also, we may not even need a whole lot of our own words, previous brochures just have the mission, vision, etc. We could also find quotes from places that have hosted their productions. Also, in your research make sure you figure out what information needs to be on the flyer (dates, places, prices, etc.) Again, with the flyer we really only need what it is, where it is, and a quote about the production from the Company, again not a lot of our own writing.
-Tess
Your comment makes a lot of sense. Finding quotes from places that have hosted their productions or attended them is a great idea. Yea the flyer is all basic information. The background pictures and color scheme is the most important thing. Has there been any thoughts to the color scheme yet? I know I haven't but I need to start thinking about it. Yea, we might have to contact the girl from the theatre to find out prices. Ya know, something like 10 dollars now, 20 dollars at the door type of thing.. I have no clue how they do it.
Hey so I just said that Roxy hasn't responded to any of our emails or our wiki yet. I asked him what we should do but he hasn't responded yet...I'll let you know when he does. I am going to get some serious research done tomorrow. Please let me know specifics that you need to put this together. Thanks so much and hope you're all having a good week!
Submitted by tessryan33 on Tue, 07/15/2008 - 13:22.
Hey guys,
If you could get me your work today, that would be great, at this point I can see we are heading on without Roxy. Ryan~I think the colors should be red and black, I really need pictures for both the brochure and the flyer. Should the flyer have one picture or lots? Sarah~ I can copy and paste the mission statement and vision, but if you could get quotes from places that have put on their productions, or just whatever quotes you an find. Also, when and where the production will be for the flyer and the price. Look at the info page for the company that Ed posted (Monday Week 5), also their website. Then I can compile it all and you can guys can make suggestions to the layout and we'll be done!
The hand reaching up for the grapes on the right side, the grapes obviously at the top... that covers the right side and top.
Then I think we should have 2 more pictures of the actual production in action, which might be hard to find because the website just has pictures of past productions. The text can all fit in the middle. We can just position the pictures with the text the way we think fits best.
We haven't designated an e-mail writer for our group to Joanna yet. We need to e-mail her to figure out the price of the production. And just to ask her anything we need.
Theresa, should this job be yours because you have already sent out 2 e-mails to the group and you are the one turning in our drafts so you have the document last and can input the price the easiest when Joanna tells you.
Ok so for the brochure headings.
Cover is pretty basic.. follow the TTG style guide
Inside:
Mission Statement
Vision
- picture of the greek Tantalus reaching for grapes
We should probably have a section telling people that are interested but have never seen one of TTGs productions why they should attend..
WHY SHOULD YOU GO?
because they are on the edge of make belief and real life... they take chances that really pay off.. etc...
One of the sections should be about DONATIONS.
We should tell them that this is the only way TTG is funded because they are 501(c)3 non-profit. They greatly appreciate it and you can choose to be anonymous if you wish. If not you will be sure to be recognized... etc...
The back cover will be easy.. we can just offer contact info.. We definitely need a link to the website.. We can tell people, if you wish to meet all of our talented actors please visit .....
One section could possibly describe how hard all the actors work by including information from the "Research" section of the website.
It might seem like we are just copying the website. But to me, that is what a brochure should be.. a portable website. I mean they obviously took time and want their website to be good, so if the brochure is similar, they should like it. We just need to make it visually appealing to make someone pick it up and hold on to it.
Sorry, I kind of just started blabbing there, but those are my thoughts... Regard them or disregard them.
Submitted by tessryan33 on Tue, 07/15/2008 - 19:26.
First of all I like your vision of the flyer. Second, there are production pictures, lots of them, in the zip file sent by Joanna found on the company info page posted on Monday of week 5 by Ed. Third, I am pretty sure the prices are at the different places websites, but if for some reason Sarah can't find them I will e-mail Joanna. Fourth, I already have the cover and back and first panel of the brochure done, as we have been saying with the mission and vision and what not however, my computer is dumb and will not open their logo, which I wanted to put in the background if you could open in our computer and save it as a different type of file and email it to me I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you could pick the production photos for the flyer and brochure that would be great . Lastly, they send out their brochures every year with fund raising letters so I don't think we necessarily need to ask for donations.
Also, I really like what you said about a brochure being a portable website.
I am trying to trace around the hand and grapes so there is no background, that way we can use this for all of our documents and it will look a lot better. We don't want those purple slashed lines in the background. I am also trying to do the same with the name, "Tantalus Theatre Group" on the banner of their website. Once I get this done, we will have our main pictures. I will send this to you tomorrow, as I am not going to be able to finish it tonight, which I apologize for.
- In the WHY SHOULD I? section, instead of saying "nonprofit" we should say, "not for profit organization"
- At the end of the WHY SHOULD I? section where it says "affiliate search" we need to type out the actual link on the brochure
- I think we should delete the OTHER WAYS TO HELP section. This makes the brochure seem like we are just asking for people's help, plus if we include the story of tantalus then we already have 6 panels. I think anything about donations should go at the end, so I think the WHY SHOULD I? section should probably be last.
I sent the files through e-mail because they wouldn't upload on this site. Let me know if you have any trouble getting them. I sent the pics for the flyer through my purdue e-mail. I had to send the pics for the brochure through my work e-mail.
Good Job Theresa... I love the cover how you got the 4 girls inside the logo.. that is awesome. Seeing how the other 2 sample brochures both used the phrase, "Enter a New World," I was wondering if we should change this. We could put something like... "Dare to Enter a New World?" I dont know..
The picture you chose for the back cover from the past production is good too.. nice work.
There might be too many words for a brochure.. Even though it is good to start out explaining who Tantalus was.. we might want to put that section on the 3rd panel or something.. I'm just thinking when people open it up and see a full page of text they might not read it. Also, Ed might not like that we use bullet points in only one spot (Vision). I found another place where we can use bullets. In the DONATIONS part at the end we could say...
You can also donate by:
- going online via PayPal
- buying merchandise at our CafePress store
- shopping at Amazon via our "affiliate search"
I think this is a very good first rough draft.. We are in good shape.. Thanks Theresa.
Submitted by tessryan33 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 19:21.
I am so glad you like the brochure. I have to say I stole the cover picture from their myspace. Also, yes a new title would be better, I seriously have no thoughts so we should brainstorm of the next few says. I agree that the story might be discouraging to a reader. Maybe we could condense the story? I liked the idea of opening the brochure and having the vision and story next to each other, esp. because of how well the picture applies (which I thought was AmAzing) Finally, great idea! I feel like our eyes are drawn to bullets, so what better a place than DONATIONS
Hooray for rough drafts
Theresa
P.S. I wanted to let you guys know, I will be at my Grandma's from Friday morning until Wednesday night, so I will have to go somewhere to get online, so I will probably only be on once a day.
Also, we should think of a concrete way to make revisions
Lastly, I know this is way in advanced, but if we wanted we could complete this class July 30th, by turning our project assessments the day the final draft is due and also doing our indv work blogs and group act. report that day as well. Let me know what you think
Submitted by tessryan33 on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 23:56.
Hey, since you are doing the group act. report. Please add that draft one is in two posts, because one member was having computer difficulties and couldn't email their part to the other person or something like that. Thank you
Submitted by tessryan33 on Thu, 07/17/2008 - 18:16.
Okay, here is my idea for our FIRST round of revisions. We may want to revise the second draft differently, but here is how we I think we could revise our first draft. If you don't like this idea, that is totally fine we can do something else, it is just what I have come up with =)
I made the brochure in publisher, I can email it to Ryan and he make any changes he deems necessary, then he can email the revised version to Sarah, who can do the same and send it on to Roxy, who can do the same and send it back to me for finishing touches, and then I can post it.
Roxy, keeping the flyer in whatever form she created it can send it to me who can make whatever changes, then I'll send it to Ryan (who'd be done with the brochure) then he can send it Sarah, who can send it back to Roxy to make finishing touches, then she can send it to me to post.
If someone else would rather post the second draft that is fine too lol
Let me know what you think of that plan =) I thought it seemed like the best way for us each to make the changes we want without going to through 100 people and at the same time it ends with the person who made it who can make sure that everything still flows well.
**If someone happens to receive a publication with a change they do not like THEN we could all talk about it and decide what is best. Otherwise this should be the most painless way to make changes, without having to all discuss every little thing**
This makes sense to me. Like you said, if there is a change that isn't agreed upon by everyone, then we can get on AIM and all discuss it together. I am fine with this idea.
So, I haven't got any comments back on the flyer idea I e-mailed to everyone. Is that because no one likes it? That'd be fine, I was just wondering. I think if we can fit the necessary information in a neat manner, then that idea would be better than our first draft. what do you guys think??
Do I need to send my idea again, did you guys receive it?
Submitted by tessryan33 on Sat, 07/19/2008 - 11:20.
Hey, since you like the idea, I think we should just get started. Ryan I will email you the brochure for you to start making revisions. Roxy, if you could send me the flyer ASAP that would be great. The second draft is due Tuesday.
As far as your flyer idea Ryan, I thought Roxy's was fine, and I think having the information in the middle is better. But that's just my opinion I don't know what you guys think.
Submitted by tessryan33 on Sat, 07/19/2008 - 11:34.
SOOO the brochure is too big and I can't send it. We need a new plan for revisions. My new thought is everyone just send ideas for the flyer to Roxy and ideas for the brochure to me. The on Tuesday I will sit down and implement all the suggestions and then turn it in, and then Roxy can do the same.
That works for me.. Yea i didn't think you would be able to send it because I couldn't even send my picture ideas through e-mail. Your idea should work. Everyone just send their ideas for revisions to you for the brochure and Roxy for the flyer. Purdue's e-mail is down today (Saturday) but o well.
I will post the group activity report tomorrow afternoon so everyone can read it before I e-mail it to Ed.
Has everyone looked at the other groups first drafts. I just did this morning. I would say we are close to the top of the class right now with the brochure. From Group 2, I learned that we need backgrounds behind our pictures like theirs to set apart the pictures from the text and really make them stand out. You can tell they just used the "format word art" option in word but we need to do something like that. Group 2's flyer is the best by far. Everyone should check it out. I don't know but you dont always get a chance to look at your competition so I suggest everyone should do it..
Hey everyone.. Let me know if there is anything I should change, delete, or add. If not, this is what I am e-mailing to Ed later tonight.
In week two of this client-based service learning project, we began by coming in contact with our fourth group member, Roxy. We learned she had suffered a loss in her family and had to travel to London for the arrangements, giving her every good reason not to respond to our group conversations. Theresa brought Roxy up to speed with the progress our group had made and she began contributing immediately, fitting in the group seamlessly. Roxy took some of the load off Theresa’s hands by gathering the necessary information and graphics, and then developing the flyer. On Tuesday of week two, our first drafts were submitted in a timely manner. The documents we created for our first draft exceeded our expectations. It was amazing to see how everything successfully came together when all activity was done through an online interface. From there, we instantly started offering suggestions for revisions. There was still much work needed to be done to both documents, but at least now we had a solid foundation to build off of. Luckily for this project, we have the chance to submit two drafts before the final submission to the client. This opportunity does not happen often, but will greatly benefit our final documents after we absorb every ounce of feedback. Our revisions are currently taking place for each document. We found that the brochure and flyer are too large of files to be sent over Purdue’s e-mail. Because of this, each group member is sending any and all ideas to improve the brochure and flyer to Theresa and Roxy, respectively. If there is any conflict regarding a certain group member’s ideas, then all four of us will get on AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) so we can quickly and easily solve the conflict. AIM allows all four of us to instantly communicate with each other, thus not having to wait for a response on the group’s wiki or to an e-mail. Our group is ending the week continuing to make revisions, preparing to submit our second draft on Tuesday, July 22nd.
Theresa, I am just going to post my ideas for brochure revisions here so everyone can see them.
COVER
- change the words to "DARE TO ENTER A NEW WORLD..."
- add some red color, words and picture border
OUR VISION
- the word en-ticed.. make it so there is no hypen
- to capture.. there are too many spaces in between these words
- White border around picture
- 4th point needs a bullet
- In 3rd point, so ex-pand doesn't have a hypen, take out "in order to" and after role put a comma, then "expanding the realm..."
DONATIONS
- after not for profit, put "organization"
- 1st sentence first line, don't need "the" before TTG
- use the bulleted idea I suggested before for the other donation options
OUR MISSION
- white or red picture border or blend of both
- there is no clear alignment at all.. are you just centering everything? I don't know if this looks the best
For All Panels...
Try justifying the text and then have the last line of each paragraph centered
Hey everyone so I think so far everything looks great. I think his comments were very good and very helpful. I cannot think of anything else we should be changing at the momment but please email me if you need my help on anything. Thanks for all your hard work!
Hi!
I think when everyone in our group gets to this page they should post a comment so we can all get started. Thanks
Wonderful!
Sounds good to me! I am here and have a question for everyone. Is everyone cool with using this page as a means of communication? Or is there something that would work better? I personally have no preference, but I do think this is good, because we are on the course page everyday anyway and this way we can always see what everyone has said and so on.
What's Up Group 3?
I agree that the wiki should be our main form of communication as well, seeing as how much time we spend on this website. E-mail would work too, but I think this is just as easy, if not easier. I think we should all give updates or insight on this page at least 2 times a week so we can all stay on the same page throughout the project. I am ready to get started. The first step.. the Gantt Chart.
Ryan L. Ross
Sounds good
I think using this is great but just in case we should all post our emails. mine is skeeker@purdue.edu
Well that is easy, your
Well that is easy, your purdue e-mail is the same as your username on this site.
Mine is too.. my e-mail is rlross@purdue.edu
Ryan L. Ross
Getting Started...
So, I know we all have to finish the Corporate Communication Project first, but I was just wondering how we are going to get started on this Gantt Chart. I think we should just post any ideas here and go from there. We know we have to make a brochure and a flyer. I think we should first break down all of the tasks to complete each document and what we want to include in each one. Then we can delegate responsibilty accordingly. Just kind of putting something out there. We can expand tomorrow after we turn in our other projects.
Ryan L. Ross
Gantt Chart
I have to be honest I am still a little confused as to how all this works, but I agree a good idea would be to post every step that has to be completed and then we can figure out who would be best for each and by when each should be completed. It appears as though, maybe just one person should compose all the information onto the chart? Also we have individual weblogs, which are obviously individual. But then we also have the group activity reports, which I think we only need one from the whole group, so there is one for this week (week 5) and then one for weeks 6,7, and 8, so what we could do is each pick a week to be in charge of the group activity report or we could assign one person that task for consistency and then just keep in mind that, that is one of that person's responsibilities when assigning work. As far as listing every step that needs to be completed and when here is what I have come up with.
Brochure
-Research Company
-Decide what information should be included
-Write Information in own words
-Find Graphics
-Compile neatly and beautifully into brochure
So I guess what I am thinking is someone will do the research and forward it on to the next person who will word it for a brochure who will forward it onto to someone who can select appropriate graphics (maybe this person could do the group activity reports since it is not a large task) and then they will forward it to the last person who will get it all laid out in a brochure. I have made a number of brochures for the many groups I am in so I would love to be this last person if that is alright with everyone. And then we can select dates in a way that everyone has time to do their part.
Then in the chart we need to schedule in revisions.
Finally I think the flyer could be done in a similar way. Maybe even keeping jobs the same if we can each find our niche. Meaning, someone would research, the next person would word, the next person would find graphics and again this person could be in charge of activity reports, and then the last person would be in charge of the lay out and so on. Which again I have made a number of flyers for my groups as well so would love to do this. And since the due dates are the same we could just do both at the same time. Someone researches for both things at the same time and so on.
Please feel free to completely shoot my ideas down, or correct if I am wrong, However, I saw that our Gannt charts are due tomorrow so I really wanted to get the ball rolling.
Lastly Roxy has not been here yet, would you guys like me to e-mail her since we all have each other's e-mails now from Ed. Let me know.
I look forward to hearing from you guys and getting started!!
Way to get the ball rolling...
I guess I could take the role of finding graphics that would work best for our brochure. By taking this responsibility, I could also write the four group activity reports. Keep in mind that even though a person is assigned one of the tasks you listed, that person is more like the leader of that task. We all should take part in each task. Everyone must research the company to find out as much as we can. We need to know what audience we are targeting and the services the theatre provides. Also, once the person submits their draft of the writing to the group, the rest of us will peer review it before we submit our official draft to the course website. Just like I would ask all of your approval of the graphics, everyone will offer good advice of the writing that should be included. We might find a more concise way to write something or think of a catchier heading.. just anything. I think it is important that we all peer review and give feedback on each others parts before submitting anything to Ed. I am always available to give ideas of a section that might be useful in the brochure if the writer, which at this point I guess would be Sarah because Roxy hasn’t responded yet, needs help or any more ideas. The writing is probably the hardest part so we should all have a part in that. Anyways, I think we are making progress. I will try to get started on a Gantt Chart I guess. Once I find a template or something to go off of, it shouldn’t take too long. I will submit it on our wiki before I post it in the blog.
Ryan L. Ross
Amazing
So I think all of your ideas were great so far. I would love to volunteer to do the research on the company! I think I could be good at that. Also I kind of freaked out tonight when I realized we have that graph due tomorrow! Does anyone think they could get it started? I looked at the outline of how to do one and it seems like it all needs to be done by one person? Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I will be traveling tomorrow and all weekend but will make myself available to do any work necessary. So if everyone can give some feedback, hopefully we can get this done by early tomorrow evening that would be great!
Thanks everyone and happy FRIDAY!
Gannt Chart
It looks like Ryan has volunteered to do the Gannt chart. Let me know if I misinterpreted what you said, but if not thank you very much
That means you get the privilege of selecting dates that things need to be complete by. I agree that we should all be proof reading each other's work. If Sarah researches and posts what she thinks should be included than we could all view it comment and then Roxy could start writing it in our words in a way that would be appropriate for our brochure. Which if you guys haven't had time to view the power point on brochures DO IT, it is awesome. Then she can again post it and we can read and comment. Then Ryan you can select pictures and again post them so we can all agree. Finally I can compose everything into a brochure. So Roxy won't have to worry about bullets, or fonts, or anything like that, just content. However, like you said we have to hear from her so I will e-mail her right now. Also, Ryan like you said you can post the Gannt chart on here before you turn it in so can all review, and I think it would be awesome if you could do the same with the group activity reports. Therefore, maybe you could complete that by Saturday night or Sunday morning so we have a chance to peek at it before you turn it in.
If anyone has any problems with this plan speak now or forever hold your peace!
Peace Held
-Ryan
Hey everyone I can do our
Hey everyone I can do our group's work blog for this week. Don't forget to do your own individual one though! Thanks again Ryan for doing the Gantt chart! Also I was a little confused by the 2nd to last post before mine. We have to turn in the Gantt Chart and the work blog by Sunday at midnight. So if everyone would like to email me with something I can say that they have done we can get everyone included in that and I will post it by tomorrow so everyone can make any and all suggestions and we can get it perfect. Thanks everyone!
Gannt Chart
Hey Group 3,
Attached is the Gannt Chart I created.
Post any comments as you deem necessary.
Thanks.
1st Revision
Sorry, but I am making the first revision to my own work.
I added Individual Work Blogs to the Chart. Even though their individual, I put it on the schedule so we don't forget. Also, I moved the peer review that we will have to do of another group out of the milestone category because it is not a milestone. I moved the legend over a couple columns too, no big deal.
Let me know what you guys think..
And by the way, this chart is spelled GANTT
Ryan L. Ross
Realization
Hey it just occurred to me that everywhere on the chart that it says brochure, it should say brochure and flyer.
Confused
Sarah, I thought Ryan volunteered to our work blogs because he will be finding graphics?
Ryan, is there anything you need from me in order to write what our group has completed? I did view their myspace page and I was able to view the actress who be playing penny's page. I also watched the youtube video linked to at their site about the play... interesting to say the least.
Also the chart is due tonight at midnight. I think it looks great, I agree we should all research as possible and I think you broke down the tasks a bit better than I did. The subheadings for each persons task will clearly greatly help each person.
Just Replying..
Hey thats fine if Sarah volunteered to do the first one, which is due this Sunday. I will do the other 3 for Weeks 6,7, and 8.
Pretty much all we did this week was brainstorm ideas of what needs to be done, assigned responsibility to certain tasks, and created a schedule (Gantt Chart).
I think we were successful in getting the ball rolling on this project. Everything is going good so far.
Personally, I still need to research this theatre to get a feel for what they are about, their mission statement, and goals for the future.
Thanks for your comments on the Gantt chart.. I think it is pretty good.. its only 5% of our project grade, and I think the chart will get us all 5 points
Thank You
Very Much =)
Question
So I am having trouble deciding if I should include the fact that Roxy hasn't praticipated at all in any of our discussions yet. Did she ever respond to that email that was sent to her? Please let me know. I am out of town but I am still working on our group work blog for this week and will have it completed by tomorrow. I also think if Roxy doesn't let us know soon we need to divide up the section of work that we left for her to do between all of us. Thanks so much and let me know what you think. Also I think the Gantt chart is coming along great!
Answer
Hey, I think it would make sense if you mentioned Roxy in our group report for this week. Remember the group report is to be emailed to Ed, not posted. I think it would be best if you asked him what we should do. Also, no she has not responded to the email...
Mission Accomplished
I emailed our weekly activity report to Mr. Plough today!
=(
Did you mention Roxy in our report? What should we do? It is Monday. Our draft is due Wednesday. She has not emailed back. She did not comment on any of our reading responses.
Roxy?
Thanks Sarah for doing the Group Activity Report.
I don't know what to do about Roxy. She submitted a Reading Response so I know she has been on the website. I can't think of one good reason why she hasn't looked at our wiki yet and at least said hello. We probably should ask Ed what to do about it. She didn't even respond to a personal e-mail either. Maybe if Ed e-mailed her, she would understand?
Anyways, our first draft is due Wednesday. By the end of today, we should have what sections we want to talk about and start thinking about the actualy content of the brochure. We need to have the writing done by the afternoon tomorrow.
I guess it will just be us three bouncing ideas off each other. Its worked so far..
-Ryan
Group Activity Report
Hey Sarah if you could let me know what you said about Roxy in our group activity report, I will gladly email Ed about the situation. Also how is your research coming along? If you don't hear from Roxy, since you are selecting headings and sections and what not we could split that up three ways as far as writing the content. Also, we may not even need a whole lot of our own words, previous brochures just have the mission, vision, etc. We could also find quotes from places that have hosted their productions. Also, in your research make sure you figure out what information needs to be on the flyer (dates, places, prices, etc.) Again, with the flyer we really only need what it is, where it is, and a quote about the production from the Company, again not a lot of our own writing.
-Tess
True True
Your comment makes a lot of sense. Finding quotes from places that have hosted their productions or attended them is a great idea. Yea the flyer is all basic information. The background pictures and color scheme is the most important thing. Has there been any thoughts to the color scheme yet? I know I haven't but I need to start thinking about it. Yea, we might have to contact the girl from the theatre to find out prices. Ya know, something like 10 dollars now, 20 dollars at the door type of thing.. I have no clue how they do it.
Ryan L. Ross
hey guys
Hey so I just said that Roxy hasn't responded to any of our emails or our wiki yet. I asked him what we should do but he hasn't responded yet...I'll let you know when he does. I am going to get some serious research done tomorrow. Please let me know specifics that you need to put this together. Thanks so much and hope you're all having a good week!
*IMPORTANT*
Hey guys,
If you could get me your work today, that would be great, at this point I can see we are heading on without Roxy. Ryan~I think the colors should be red and black, I really need pictures for both the brochure and the flyer. Should the flyer have one picture or lots? Sarah~ I can copy and paste the mission statement and vision, but if you could get quotes from places that have put on their productions, or just whatever quotes you an find. Also, when and where the production will be for the flyer and the price. Look at the info page for the company that Ed posted (Monday Week 5), also their website. Then I can compile it all and you can guys can make suggestions to the layout and we'll be done!
I will send this to you in an email as well!
Theresa
Flyer
Here is how I envision the flyer.
The hand reaching up for the grapes on the right side, the grapes obviously at the top... that covers the right side and top.
Then I think we should have 2 more pictures of the actual production in action, which might be hard to find because the website just has pictures of past productions. The text can all fit in the middle. We can just position the pictures with the text the way we think fits best.
We haven't designated an e-mail writer for our group to Joanna yet. We need to e-mail her to figure out the price of the production. And just to ask her anything we need.
Theresa, should this job be yours because you have already sent out 2 e-mails to the group and you are the one turning in our drafts so you have the document last and can input the price the easiest when Joanna tells you.
Ok so for the brochure headings.
Cover is pretty basic.. follow the TTG style guide
Inside:
Mission Statement
Vision
- picture of the greek Tantalus reaching for grapes
We should probably have a section telling people that are interested but have never seen one of TTGs productions why they should attend..
WHY SHOULD YOU GO?
because they are on the edge of make belief and real life... they take chances that really pay off.. etc...
One of the sections should be about DONATIONS.
We should tell them that this is the only way TTG is funded because they are 501(c)3 non-profit. They greatly appreciate it and you can choose to be anonymous if you wish. If not you will be sure to be recognized... etc...
The back cover will be easy.. we can just offer contact info.. We definitely need a link to the website.. We can tell people, if you wish to meet all of our talented actors please visit .....
One section could possibly describe how hard all the actors work by including information from the "Research" section of the website.
It might seem like we are just copying the website. But to me, that is what a brochure should be.. a portable website. I mean they obviously took time and want their website to be good, so if the brochure is similar, they should like it. We just need to make it visually appealing to make someone pick it up and hold on to it.
Sorry, I kind of just started blabbing there, but those are my thoughts... Regard them or disregard them.
I'll write to you guys later tonight...
A few things
First of all I like your vision of the flyer. Second, there are production pictures, lots of them, in the zip file sent by Joanna found on the company info page posted on Monday of week 5 by Ed. Third, I am pretty sure the prices are at the different places websites, but if for some reason Sarah can't find them I will e-mail Joanna. Fourth, I already have the cover and back and first panel of the brochure done, as we have been saying with the mission and vision and what not
however, my computer is dumb and will not open their logo, which I wanted to put in the background if you could open in our computer and save it as a different type of file and email it to me I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you could pick the production photos for the flyer and brochure that would be great . Lastly, they send out their brochures every year with fund raising letters so I don't think we necessarily need to ask for donations.
Also, I really like what you said about a brochure being a portable website.
I take it back
I was thinking, there will be other times their brochure will be given to people, so you are right that we should include info about donations.
Photos
I am trying to trace around the hand and grapes so there is no background, that way we can use this for all of our documents and it will look a lot better. We don't want those purple slashed lines in the background. I am also trying to do the same with the name, "Tantalus Theatre Group" on the banner of their website. Once I get this done, we will have our main pictures. I will send this to you tomorrow, as I am not going to be able to finish it tonight, which I apologize for.
Ryan L. Ross
Zip File
Thanks for reminding me of the zip file.. that sure helps a lot..
Ryan L. Ross
Group Research!
Attached is the research for our project! Let me know if you need anything else.
Comments
- In the WHY SHOULD I? section, instead of saying "nonprofit" we should say, "not for profit organization"
- At the end of the WHY SHOULD I? section where it says "affiliate search" we need to type out the actual link on the brochure
- I think we should delete the OTHER WAYS TO HELP section. This makes the brochure seem like we are just asking for people's help, plus if we include the story of tantalus then we already have 6 panels. I think anything about donations should go at the end, so I think the WHY SHOULD I? section should probably be last.
Ryan L. Ross
PICTURES
I sent the files through e-mail because they wouldn't upload on this site. Let me know if you have any trouble getting them. I sent the pics for the flyer through my purdue e-mail. I had to send the pics for the brochure through my work e-mail.
Ryan L. Ross
Agreed =)
Thanks!!!
WoW
Good Job Theresa... I love the cover how you got the 4 girls inside the logo.. that is awesome. Seeing how the other 2 sample brochures both used the phrase, "Enter a New World," I was wondering if we should change this. We could put something like... "Dare to Enter a New World?" I dont know..
The picture you chose for the back cover from the past production is good too.. nice work.
There might be too many words for a brochure.. Even though it is good to start out explaining who Tantalus was.. we might want to put that section on the 3rd panel or something.. I'm just thinking when people open it up and see a full page of text they might not read it. Also, Ed might not like that we use bullet points in only one spot (Vision). I found another place where we can use bullets. In the DONATIONS part at the end we could say...
You can also donate by:
- going online via PayPal
- buying merchandise at our CafePress store
- shopping at Amazon via our "affiliate search"
I think this is a very good first rough draft.. We are in good shape.. Thanks Theresa.
Ryan L. Ross
YAY
I am so glad you like the brochure. I have to say I stole the cover picture from their myspace. Also, yes a new title would be better, I seriously have no thoughts so we should brainstorm of the next few says. I agree that the story might be discouraging to a reader. Maybe we could condense the story? I liked the idea of opening the brochure and having the vision and story next to each other, esp. because of how well the picture applies (which I thought was AmAzing) Finally, great idea! I feel like our eyes are drawn to bullets, so what better a place than DONATIONS
Hooray for rough drafts
Theresa
P.S. I wanted to let you guys know, I will be at my Grandma's from Friday morning until Wednesday night, so I will have to go somewhere to get online, so I will probably only be on once a day.
Also, we should think of a concrete way to make revisions
Lastly, I know this is way in advanced, but if we wanted we could complete this class July 30th, by turning our project assessments the day the final draft is due and also doing our indv work blogs and group act. report that day as well. Let me know what you think
Ryan
Hey, since you are doing the group act. report. Please add that draft one is in two posts, because one member was having computer difficulties and couldn't email their part to the other person or something like that. Thank you
Theresa
IGNORE
The last comment we worked things out
Idea
Okay, here is my idea for our FIRST round of revisions. We may want to revise the second draft differently, but here is how we I think we could revise our first draft. If you don't like this idea, that is totally fine we can do something else, it is just what I have come up with =)
I made the brochure in publisher, I can email it to Ryan and he make any changes he deems necessary, then he can email the revised version to Sarah, who can do the same and send it on to Roxy, who can do the same and send it back to me for finishing touches, and then I can post it.
Roxy, keeping the flyer in whatever form she created it can send it to me who can make whatever changes, then I'll send it to Ryan (who'd be done with the brochure) then he can send it Sarah, who can send it back to Roxy to make finishing touches, then she can send it to me to post.
If someone else would rather post the second draft that is fine too lol
Let me know what you think of that plan =) I thought it seemed like the best way for us each to make the changes we want without going to through 100 people and at the same time it ends with the person who made it who can make sure that everything still flows well.
**If someone happens to receive a publication with a change they do not like THEN we could all talk about it and decide what is best. Otherwise this should be the most painless way to make changes, without having to all discuss every little thing**
Theresa
Re: Idea
This makes sense to me. Like you said, if there is a change that isn't agreed upon by everyone, then we can get on AIM and all discuss it together. I am fine with this idea.
So, I haven't got any comments back on the flyer idea I e-mailed to everyone. Is that because no one likes it? That'd be fine, I was just wondering. I think if we can fit the necessary information in a neat manner, then that idea would be better than our first draft. what do you guys think??
Do I need to send my idea again, did you guys receive it?
- Ryan
No Subject
Hey, since you like the idea, I think we should just get started. Ryan I will email you the brochure for you to start making revisions. Roxy, if you could send me the flyer ASAP that would be great. The second draft is due Tuesday.
As far as your flyer idea Ryan, I thought Roxy's was fine, and I think having the information in the middle is better. But that's just my opinion I don't know what you guys think.
Tess
PROBLEM
SOOO the brochure is too big and I can't send it. We need a new plan for revisions. My new thought is everyone just send ideas for the flyer to Roxy and ideas for the brochure to me. The on Tuesday I will sit down and implement all the suggestions and then turn it in, and then Roxy can do the same.
I will send this is an email as well.
Let me know what you think.
Theresa
That works for me.. Yea i
That works for me.. Yea i didn't think you would be able to send it because I couldn't even send my picture ideas through e-mail. Your idea should work. Everyone just send their ideas for revisions to you for the brochure and Roxy for the flyer. Purdue's e-mail is down today (Saturday) but o well.
I will post the group activity report tomorrow afternoon so everyone can read it before I e-mail it to Ed.
Have a good night!
-Ryan
Other Groups
Has everyone looked at the other groups first drafts. I just did this morning. I would say we are close to the top of the class right now with the brochure. From Group 2, I learned that we need backgrounds behind our pictures like theirs to set apart the pictures from the text and really make them stand out. You can tell they just used the "format word art" option in word but we need to do something like that. Group 2's flyer is the best by far. Everyone should check it out. I don't know but you dont always get a chance to look at your competition so I suggest everyone should do it..
Ryan L. Ross
Group Activity Report - Week 6
Hey everyone.. Let me know if there is anything I should change, delete, or add. If not, this is what I am e-mailing to Ed later tonight.
In week two of this client-based service learning project, we began by coming in contact with our fourth group member, Roxy. We learned she had suffered a loss in her family and had to travel to London for the arrangements, giving her every good reason not to respond to our group conversations. Theresa brought Roxy up to speed with the progress our group had made and she began contributing immediately, fitting in the group seamlessly. Roxy took some of the load off Theresa’s hands by gathering the necessary information and graphics, and then developing the flyer. On Tuesday of week two, our first drafts were submitted in a timely manner. The documents we created for our first draft exceeded our expectations. It was amazing to see how everything successfully came together when all activity was done through an online interface. From there, we instantly started offering suggestions for revisions. There was still much work needed to be done to both documents, but at least now we had a solid foundation to build off of. Luckily for this project, we have the chance to submit two drafts before the final submission to the client. This opportunity does not happen often, but will greatly benefit our final documents after we absorb every ounce of feedback. Our revisions are currently taking place for each document. We found that the brochure and flyer are too large of files to be sent over Purdue’s e-mail. Because of this, each group member is sending any and all ideas to improve the brochure and flyer to Theresa and Roxy, respectively. If there is any conflict regarding a certain group member’s ideas, then all four of us will get on AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) so we can quickly and easily solve the conflict. AIM allows all four of us to instantly communicate with each other, thus not having to wait for a response on the group’s wiki or to an e-mail. Our group is ending the week continuing to make revisions, preparing to submit our second draft on Tuesday, July 22nd.
- Ryan
check your e-mail
Hey everyone,
I just sent you guys an e-mail about some flyer ideas.
Also, Ed sent us some feedback on our first draft that everyone needs to check out and take into consideration.
- Ryan
REVISIONS FOR BROCHURE
Theresa, I am just going to post my ideas for brochure revisions here so everyone can see them.
COVER
- change the words to "DARE TO ENTER A NEW WORLD..."
- add some red color, words and picture border
OUR VISION
- the word en-ticed.. make it so there is no hypen
- to capture.. there are too many spaces in between these words
- White border around picture
- 4th point needs a bullet
- In 3rd point, so ex-pand doesn't have a hypen, take out "in order to" and after role put a comma, then "expanding the realm..."
DONATIONS
- after not for profit, put "organization"
- 1st sentence first line, don't need "the" before TTG
- use the bulleted idea I suggested before for the other donation options
OUR MISSION
- white or red picture border or blend of both
- there is no clear alignment at all.. are you just centering everything? I don't know if this looks the best
For All Panels...
Try justifying the text and then have the last line of each paragraph centered
STORY OF TANTALUS
- paraphrase the story (conciseness)
- Ryan
Comment...
Hey everyone so I think so far everything looks great. I think his comments were very good and very helpful. I cannot think of anything else we should be changing at the momment but please email me if you need my help on anything. Thanks for all your hard work!