Self Made Man The Movie: All of the monks will be played by Robin Williams

Submitted by pwerle on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 6:02am

The dating chaptor was pretty painful to read, and the detailing of how self defeating the process can be is hardly motivating. How does a guy both develop the thick skin needed to keep going back for more abuse, but on the same token not end up so calloused by the process that he can't feel anything? Is the male "fear of commitment" in fact a delayed twitch in respose to prior beatings? Likewise, its disheartening to read Vincents analysis of the mindset of the women, that men are monsters until proven human. I find it confusing that women can be so vicious to one another in competition, yet still give each other more credit at first meeting than they would to any man on earth.

The Life chapter was really really interesting to me, because in it Vincent completed what I think is her most shameful deception thusfar, but also seemed to have the most genuine positive effect. By providing an outlet for the monks who needed someone to talk to she undoubtedly brought some members of the group comfort, but likewise the breaking of the sanctity of their home was really unnerving. As jaded as I now am towards religion, I still have a deep and abiding respect for those who can still honestly and faithfully believe. I can't imagine taking advantage of the monks good nature and situation as Vincent does, no matter what the excuse.

Butler's sentences read like they're anagrams. I get the jist of what she is saying, but since I have never seen Paris is Burning nor read its opposing critiques a lot of the analysis is wasted paper.

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I'm with you on the Butler

Submitted by Anne on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 9:03pm

I'm with you on the Butler reading, although I've added the movie "Paris is Burning" to my Netflix queue. I focused on the beginning and the end, reading about her take on the film, but having to rush over it because I wasn't familiar with what Butler was referring to.

As for the Life section, I'll pose the same question to you as I did Amanda: why does/would/should the religious nature of the monastery give the monks exemption from Vincent's "experiment"?

Also, I would be hesitant to make generalizations from Vincent's point of view on women. Not all the gals I know make such harsh judgments on men who approach them. Most of the time, they give the guys credit for even approaching at all. Of course, a lot of my gal friends make the first move, as they say, and are radical thinkers, so they may be in the minority. I don't think this helps.

Its not a logical conclusion

Submitted by pwerle on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 1:23am

Its not a logical conclusion that the monks should receive special treatment, just an ingrained inclination. Blame 8+ years of Catholic schooling I guess.

Certainly, not all women are as suspicious or unapproachable as Vincent suggests, just as all men aren't in desperate need to slink off to the titty bar. All the same, a few more radical thinkers in the dating pool would go a long way.

Self Made Man The Movie: All of the monks will be played by Robin Williams

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