English 108: Advanced Composition
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Everything does NOT happen for a reason
I know that this is simply my opinion, and as I write this I hope no one takes offense because I don't mean to undermine anyone else’s ideas or beliefs. What I want to talk about is the notion of everything happening for a reason. Of any ideas I hear about - especially religious ideas, this one makes me the most frustrated. The idea that our lives are predetermined and that events even bad ones occur for a purpose is ridiculous to me. Can you honestly 100% say that you feel the holocaust happened for a reason? That over six million Jewish people were massacred for no other reason than that they believed something different than those in power? Or that babies are meant to be dumped off bridges into rivers to drown by parents who don’t want them? That children are meant to be working slavery, dying before they reach adulthood? Murder, rape, massacre, torture...are you telling me all these things are supposed to occur...for a reason? The only reason these happen is because of the choices a person makes. There are bad people in the world who are doing these horrific things to others. It's not happening for some divine purpose. I don't want anyone to think I am an atheist or someone who is negative, because I'm not. I believe very strongly in God and accept anyone's belief of that entity in any form - barring that it hurts someone. I’m also a positive person. I love to laugh and make others laugh. I love life and cherish my family and friends. All that I want to say is that there ARE horrible events that occur in the world, and if you are telling me that something like genocide happens for a reason...then I think that is sad. I really hope someone responds to this so I can hear your views on how I feel.
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I can respect your opinion
but I must say I disagree. Yes, horrible things happen all over history and the globe today that make you sick. Just like you said, these things happen because people make choices. I do not believe in a predetermined destiny, but that doesn't mean there isn't a reason for things that happen. If you look at these events, it's fairly easy to extract reasonable lessons from them. For example, let's take the example of the Holocaust. Humanity has the propensity to be extremely cruel and brutal, but perhaps humanity needed an example of what can happen if we don't think for ourselves. It showed what happened when you let strong emotions such as bitterness and resentment (first with the Treaty of Versailles in WWI, then kristalnacht and the burning of the Reichstag to fuel the fires of Nationalism) run your thoughts, and when you put someone who tells you you are justified in having those feelings in charge of your every move. It's a reminder that if we don't exercise our will, it is no longer ours, and the human race fails.
As for babies drowning, outrage flows when an act like that is committed, and may perhaps make parents more attentive towards their own children, grateful they are alive. It also raises discussions of proper parenting, an area that is incredibly lacking in today's society.
As for Genocide in the present day, it's a chance for us to make a difference, to educate people in impoverished nations and let them know it doesn't have to be this way. It's a chance for us to go out there and learn how to love one another.
Like I said, I respect your opinion, and it's terrible these things happen, but without pain, how can one experience joy?
*edited because I accidentally put WWII instead of WWI, but I think you all understood me.
Tough Topic
Everything does happen for a reason. Nothing really "just" happens. The reason the holocaust happened was because a mentally insane man named Adolf Hitler brainwashed his people into blindly following him. He had little opposition at home to his "final solution," and the opposition that was there had little power. I completely agree that these things occur "because of the choices a person makes." I think you were talking more about predetermined fate. I also do not believe in this. What would be the point of doing anything if my fate was determined? If I work hard at something and am rewarded with a grade, medal, applause, etc, I feel accomplished. This does not happen because of a divine force that allowed me to do well, but simply the hard work and effort that I put in. We are given the ability to make choices to define ourselves. I do not think that, for example, a man has a predetermined fate that he will murder someone. That would mean this man had no choice other than to murder. How could he be guilty of murder if he was forced/predetermined to do it? I don't think this reasoning would work well in court. The fact is that there needs to be bad so that the good could be appreciated. The idea of a perfect society is just that, an idea. In "Paradise Lost", God states that man will have the power to choose between good and evil, and that his final judgment will depend on the choices he made.
Response
I can see totally where you are coming from. The example of the Holocaust is perhaps the best example of your argument. I think, however, that no matter how dire the situation is, it just seems that things do fall into place at some time. You can look at it in a situation such as a fatal car wreck. When that person dies, there is no doubt that the situation is terrible, and looks as though there was no reason for that person should have died. But however the person was an organ donor, and their heart went to a person that is in dire need of that heart. Although the death of the driver cannot be looked at in any sense other than tradgic, the result was that someone else recieved new life. There was a kid in my hometown that drove into a lake because the sign directed him into the docks. It was dark, cold and slippery, and had no chance of surving in the freezing cold water. And though his death made all of us think how terrible it was that he died, and how young he was, the parents went all the way to the statehouse and got a law passed that prevented the sign from directing people into the lake. I know this doesn't compare to genocide, but it kinda does. Genocide is terrible in every sense. Sensless, ruthless, cold blooded murder is sickening, and makes me feel the same way that you do. But I look at all the people around the world that forget about their petty material lives, and strive to save those who have no defense. I have pretty much rambled on so I will leave you this. Just think outside the realm of immediate shock and dismay, and most times positive things usually come out of it. It is very hard to do, but it seems to me that everything does happen for a reason/
I'm glad I got other
I'm glad I got other opinions on this. I still stand firm with my belief though. You can tell me that I need to step back from the initial shock and horror of events, but at the same time, it is a lot easier for all of us to distance ourselves personally from the bad events that occur in our world. If any of us had been involved in something truly terrible - like the holocaust and watched your family - brothers, sisters, parents be torn apart forced into slavery, tortured and killed off systematically...then I'm damn sure your first thought would not be "this is happening for a reason". It's a delicate line to tread between looking outside the initial shock and distancing yourself from the event too much. The majority of people are really not in a strong position to say from personal experience that things happen for a reason. After all, most of us haven't been involved in genocide, or watched families be absoloutely destroyed...except on TV.
I can understand how one
I can understand how one would see it this way, and I respect your opinion, but I would have to say I also disagree. This is actually what my "This I believe" paper was about. You have a good point by talking about the Holocaust, murder, rape, and all the bad things that happen in people's lives; however, I think these things occur to teach us so they won't happen again. People learn from their mistakes. As for the Holocaust, I was actually just talking about this in my sociology class last week (I’m going to go off topic a little bit). We watched a movie about an experiment about obedience. There was a teacher and a learner. The learner had a list of words to memorize and was quizzed soon after. If the learner got it wrong, the teacher was supposed to shock the learner when a supervisor told him to do so. They found that even though the learner kept getting it wrong, the teacher continued to keep shocking the learner because the supervisor told him to do it. The teacher was worried about hurting the learner, but the teacher continued to shock the learner because he was being told to by the supervisor. When the Nazis were put on trial after the war, they were asked why they did this and there answer was simply, "Because I was told to."
I think some bad things happen in life so other good things can occur. I can relate to the car accident victim story because a boy also died at my high school last year, and his organs were donated so another person could live. I think it’s just one of those things where I believe that God has a plan for everyone and sometimes bad things happen to good people. No one knows why they happen. Yes, people have free choice and free will, which can stop bad things from happening, but going back to my example from sociology class, if someone is ordered to do something they usually will, especially if the order comes from a higher authority.
Your example really has
Your example really has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. First off, of course the Nazi's on trial are going to say something like that, what else could they say "I did it because I wanted to kill people?" remember they are on trial for their own lives. Secondly how does them saying that they were told to have anything to do with the fact that things happen for a reason? Thirdly, it's much easier for people to say that something happens for a reason when it is happening to you. I also learned about the experiment you are talking about, and it is massively different to the holocaust so there is no comparison there 12 million total to one person? Also, if terrible events occur so we can learn from them, why haven't they stopped? They haven't though, so to say we learn from them also doesn't make sense. Let me ask you this. If you lost your entire family in a horrific way, say they were murdered brutally before your own eyes, would you still say that it happened for a reason? What reason would it be? Because honestly I see no greater purpose for it. Bad things happen, it is the nature of our world and it is individuals who control what they do and the only reason for things happening is that we choose act in a certain way.